Spencer is kind of on the outs with the 'mainstream' alt-right ('TRS'/'NJP', and going by Mark Collett, 'Patriotic Alternative'). But, Richard is smart and willing to look at unpleasant and radically different futures, so I, at least, like to keep an eye on him. My feeling is, he'll have a part to play before the end. This, which sounds like pre-Charlottesville Spencer, was supposedly recorded in 2023, in a conversation with a Jew. That is what someone told me, I haven't seen the source myself. I would be happy to know the source if anyone knows it.